Ken not sure about that. I think Luke Glendening started like this. I think a goal for one of these kids who are done with junior eligibility is to earn a minor league contract, start in Toledo, perform well , earn your way to Grand Rapids and maybe the NHL someday. Nobody had ever heard of Glendening he was a walk on at Michgan. He earned a scholarship and then was named the captain his senior year at Michigan. I think one thing that helped him was he was a high school football plaer in Grand Rapids so he had size, which made it easier for him to be a grinding, checking player. He carved out an NHL career and is still playing.